Saheeli, Radiant Creator + Whirler Virtuoso

AI draft — not yet human-reviewed. Check citations and flag anything that looks wrong. How pages are reviewed.

Overview

If you cast Whirler Virtuoso while Saheeli, Radiant Creator is on the battlefield, Saheeli’s cast trigger (for casting an Artificer) will be placed on the stack when you cast Whirler and Whirler’s own “when this creature enters” trigger will be placed on the stack when Whirler resolves; the enter-the-battlefield trigger will resolve first and give you , then Saheeli’s cast trigger will resolve and give you (so you end up with four energy from those two triggers) [2024-06-07]. If later you use Saheeli’s beginning-of-combat ability to create a token copy of Whirler, that token is a copy of the permanent and therefore its “when this creature enters” ability will trigger and give you when the token enters [2025-02-07] and the token will carry Whirler’s activated ability (you can pay to make a Thopter). Token characteristics and the fact the token is a token are governed by the token rules [110.5b] and you control and own the token [110.5a].

The StackRules & CitationsDetails & Edge Cases

Step 1

You cast Whirler Virtuoso (it is an Artificer), and Saheeli’s 'Whenever you cast an Artificer or artifact spell, you get .' ability triggers and is put on the stack at that time [2024-06-07].

Step 2

The Whirler Virtuoso spell resolves (assuming it isn’t countered) and the creature enters the battlefield; when it does, its 'When this creature enters, you get .' triggered ability is put on the stack [2024-06-07].

Step 3

Because the Whirler’s ETB trigger was put on the stack after Saheeli’s cast trigger, the Whirler ETB resolves first and gives you [2024-06-07].

Step 4

After that resolves, Saheeli’s cast trigger resolves and gives you , so the two triggers together net you from those interactions [2024-06-07].

Step 5

At the beginning of combat on a later turn you may pay to activate Saheeli’s ability; if you target Whirler (the original creature) you create a token that is a copy of Whirler except for Saheeli’s stated changes, and that token enters the battlefield as a copy with the modifications [110.5b].

Step 6

When that token copy of Whirler enters, it is a copy of Whirler and therefore its 'When this creature enters, you get .' ability will trigger and go on the stack; when that trigger resolves you get [2025-02-07] and the token also has Whirler’s activated ability (you can pay to create a Thopter) until it is sacrificed at the beginning of the next end step.

Step 7

The token is controlled and owned by you because tokens are owned and controlled by the player under whose control they entered [110.5a], and the token ceases to exist if it leaves the battlefield or is otherwise removed [110.5e].

Resolution

When you cast Whirler Virtuoso with Saheeli on the battlefield: Saheeli’s "Whenever you cast an Artificer or artifact spell, you get ." trigger and Whirler’s "When this creature enters, you get ." trigger both go on the stack; Whirler’s ETB trigger resolves after the spell resolves and (because it was put on the stack later) will resolve before Saheeli’s cast trigger, so you get first and then from Saheeli for a total of four energy from those interactions [2024-06-07]. If Saheeli later makes a token copy of Whirler, the token is a copy and its enter-the-battlefield ability will trigger and give you when that token enters [2025-02-07], and the token will have Whirler’s activated ability allowing you to pay energy to create Thopter tokens until the copy is sacrificed at the beginning of the next end step; token characteristics and control are governed by the token rules [110.5b] and [110.5a].